Then I'd say this about that: that was one deep freaking pit. The nadir must've been down near the asthenosphere (where the crust meets the mantle). Why, that's deeper than my ex's ... insatiable ego. I call that delegation, a mark of wisdom, which is why your business has been a role model for mine for years. You made it to where you are now -- founder of this fine forum (void of politics and religion, thank you very much) and ESEE Knives -- by delegating, and knowing when to take a <choose one or more> rest, restitution, vacation, delegation, conflagration ... OK, that's enough.** You get my point. (If not, I'll come back later to clarify.) (** Jeff pays me $0.75 per word for flattery, minus what appears on the invoice as $0.43 for "Alabama State Tax", so I write as many flattering words as possible. ) Now, about that 600' of rope. Can't we just get a solar powered crane in there? It would save a lot of belay.