Why 1911's are crap.

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  1. Outlander

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    I like the 1911, it is a classic and in .45ACP it is fun to shoot, a resounding thump, well tuned it is a reliable tool, but here in lay the rub, getting and keeping one well tuned seems to be the issue. Sure you can take a stock GI like 1911 and run it on FMJ and it will tick away happily, but not many people do that. My own seem reliable with most things I feed it (it is no longer a .45ACP however....

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    ..... the vast majority or people seem to "want" to carry a 1911 because of the image/nostalgia/hype/kudos that goes with doing so, not because it is the best tool for the job.

    Over a 1911 I would pretty much choose a Glock (insert the model/calibre you most like here)....

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    .....each and every time it the purpose was serious.

    If I want to enjoy myself at the range the 1911 is truly great. My own personal favourite handgun is without shadow of a doubt the Browning HP (this was of cours ethe 1911 with all the issues fixed ;) ). All I have owned/used/been issued have been extremely reliable (the Govt ones with FMJ the others with a ramp polish have eaten anything fed) and I shoot them better than any other handgun. But that is me.

    Don't take it that I do not like the 1911, not by any stretch of the imagination, I do but as a defensive handgun/tool there are today better choices.
     
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    I figure this is an attempt at conjuring up what's his name??? The Tourist? I seem to recall his public fondness for 1911's... I am all Glock. I am proficient at shooting, maintaining and very very good at buying them. I do own one 1911, a Ruger. I can't hit **** with it but I own it just to say that I own one.
     
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    I had a 91 Harley Sportster 12oo converted before I had kids. Complete with fat bob tank, lots of chrome, Corbin seat, straight drag pipes, drag bars etc, etc,etc....We looked damn good on the side of the road.
     
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    I'm the odd duck here. I love the 1911. I had several semi custom 1911's before my divorce. Sold all of them except one Ed Brown. I can say that the 1911 set me free.
     
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    You're not the only one. I have a couple of 1911s. Springfield Armory brand. They seem to run fine, shoot straight and they are simple to use. Works for me. YMMV.
     
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    They are crap compared to a black pistol.
     
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    I've bought and sold an untold number of pistols, most brands, most models, most calibers... The G19 remains. It is now the only pistol I own. Once I decided what a pistol was intended to do and I surcumed to the reality, that there is no better pistol than a G19.

    Actually I own two; but my wife carries the other one.
     
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    Prefect timing.. Range day today. Took my g43 and Springfield range officer. Both are in the 500 round range. Shot 50 in each today. Crazy enough I had two FTE out of the glock. Pretty sure it was the ammo. Shooting federal aluminum rounds. But haven't had that problem before.
     
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    I've taken a couple of multi-day classes with 1911s and never had an issue. One was an Ed Brown Govt size I had bobtailed and the other was a Wilson Combat. Both were with whatever ammo I could get my hands on at the time. I have taken a single day with an old Kimber and it even ran great. I had a Dan Wesson that choked hard and was immediately sold after the class ... with a disclaimer to the new owner, of course.
     
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    I love my 1911s have one colt my Grandpa brought home from WW2 and a Springfield my Dad gave me. The one I love the most is my Llama Minimax. That thing is a beast I had some work done to her but never a problem and she is a nail driver.
     
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    I was not able to carry a 1911 for 29 years. Now that I am retired I carry a sig 938 every day(very similar to a 1911). On colder days I sometimes carry a Commander.
    I have extensive exposure to Double action revolvers, Berreta 96D , H&Ks , M-4s and 870s. In my case familiarity has bred contempt. I still like double action revolvers but do not shoot them. I carried a Glock for a few years but no longer own one. If I got a position that required carrying any of these, I would have no problem with it.

    I looked up this Yeager fellow. He is pretty well spoken although very opinionated. I do not see him as being overly objective either. There are plenty of guys with more experience with different opinions. Lots of competitive shooters carry 1911s. If you are a work overseas you will likely carry a Glock and probably develop an affinity for it.
     
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    I carry a Sig 938, which is similar. Sometimes I carry a Commander. I carried lots of other pistols because they were issued and I had no choice. I am retired and carry what I want.
     
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    Well, the 92/96 series sucks in my opinion. So, you can't do much worse than that :)
     
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    Once at a gas station i forgot and left my Baretta in the front seat. I came back from paying and it was gone. I was terrified. I happened to look into the garbage can and there it was. They had taken the cartridges out and threw the pistol in the trash...I guess they had experience with them.
     
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    Hahaha!

    Best story ever.
     
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    Don't care for 1911's, but I do like the nostalgia of them. Fist gun I shot was a Colt Gold Cup 10MM.
     
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    I like the 1911's as long as it is a good one and not a cheapo, but I would never carry one for self defense. My favorite is my S&W 1911 E-series never had any issues with failures.

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    I like my ninety eleventey [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe the title of this thread should read "1911's are cool guns, but there are better options for self defense".
     

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