The new Ford Broncos

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  1. C99c

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    Being able to add the lift and lockers to different levels is nice, like what they've started offering with the Rangers (locker and skids is an add on package for either 2WD or 4WD).

    I don't understand why it's not available on the manual Bronco versions

    Jeep's continued failure to offer lockers in anything except the Rubicon JL/Gladiator or Mohave Gladiator packages is also a head scratcher, unless they just expect that most folks will never want them or will add aftermarket ones.
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    Finally a vehicle my wife is actually I interested in.
    I plan on getting one over the winter but it’s between the bronco or a gmc 3500 or both.
    At least this way I can buy them and she won’t get mad at me. She still hasn’t found out I purchased my 4th Chevy luv 4x4 lol
    I’ll be selling her car this winter. I can’t wait. It’s not often she likes any vehicle.
     
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    .... fixed that right up for you :D
     
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    I wouldn't touch a first (or second) year of a new model from the "big three" but I'm glad that there are those of you who don't mind taking that risk.
    A friend of mine is pre-ordering a base model two door manual, so I'll at least get to mess around with one a little.
     
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    I'd edited my original post as to be more neutral, but yeah.

    In good news, the friend of mine who is ordering the Bronco has now sworn off modern Jeep products after ten plus years of spending way too much time in loaner cars while dealers had his JK them JL and finally Gladiator.
    He bought a beater 4runner to drive until the Broncos are ready to ship. It's his first Toyota so I'm curious to see where he goes from now. He wasn't amused that the 20 year old plus 4runner was obviously better built and better thought out than his previous, newer and more expensive Jeeps.
     
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    He probably also wasn't amused that the 20y/o 4runner wasn't any cheaper than his Jeeps either.... That's why I'm in a Nissan. Can't afford that Toyota Tax...
     
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    There's definitely a Toyota Tax, but depending on the gen/model and region it's not always a big factor.
    In the Southeast finding a decent 3rd Gen for sub $10K isn't hard.

    One of the good things to come out of the 5th Gen 4runner's huge popularity is that it's taken the pressure off of (and helped lower prices on) 3rd and 4th Gens and the Lexus 460/470s. Even 80series /LX470 prices seem to be coming down in the last 18 months or so.

    As more folks move to fullsize trucks the 1st Gen Tacoma prices are dropping too, if slowly.

    Speaking of taxes, I'd really like to grab another Blazer with a good body and frame to build later and a C20 in decent shape. While shopping them it seems to me that the square body tax will eventually make the Toyota tax seem very reasonable.
     
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    Agreed. I looked at pulling the coolness off my K5 crawler and buy a better body with EFI and A/C to swap to but couldn't find one in my price range. So the K5 got sold and the Xterra got built.
     
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    I am a big Yota fan, had several and my last one was a 91 4x4 pickup 22RE and loved it. These new Broncos are having me want one!
     
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    I just found out this week that you can no longer get a 4 cyl Toyota 4WD with a manual trans. That sucks.
    I understand the reasoning (no point in producing something that a very small minority is interested in and an even smaller number will actually purchase) but it still sucks.

    A 4cyl, manual 4WD Toyota is just one of those things that should always be.
     
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    They could easily pump up the power on them like they did back in the 80s and slap a turbo on them with their new port/direct injection.. Oh well...
     
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    Then you have likely the same power as the V6, close to the same MPGs (there isn't much difference in the current 4 and 6 cylinders already) and add a question mark on the reliability. The great part about manual 4 cyl Toyotas was that they were simple and would run forever. That is what Toyota made their name with here in the states.

    I understand why they made the decision. You don't stay in business by selling three trucks a year to people who will not need another one for twenty years. It's not Toyota's fault, it's the market.

    At least Toyota and Jeep still offer manual transmission 4WDs.
     
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    Hopefully my 2015 lasts me until I'm too old to care.

    Actually I have no doubt about mechanical reliability. It's the Ohio winters I'm worried about.
     
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    I can't answer for Toyota but I know Chrysler claims that modem automatic transmissions are more efficient than most drivers with a manual. Through my training I have learned that after profits the next most important thing to the manufacturer is meeting fuel mileage regulations and after that is making it meet emissions standards. Of course Toyota doesn't have hellcats, demons, trackhawks and the new trx truck to make up for.
     
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    I'm looking at buying an old farm truck from a guy I recently met.

    He has at least one example of every Bronco generation made, including a Bronco 2. Every one is a manual including the '95 that was originally an auto and he swapped a 5 speed into. Needless to say, he has a preorder in for a new manual two door.

    His wife is into Blazers. Her newest one is a '90. I asked her if she wanted one of the new ones and she offered to kick my ass.
     
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    Some friends and I LITERALLY ran into a media company's test/photo shoot/whatever of the new Broncos this weekend. No pics (per their request), but I did get to sit in a two door version for a minute. They seemed well laid out and will likely be very popular when they actually hit the market. When the supply catches up with demand so that the prices stabilize my wife and I will likely go test drive one.

    For Ford's sake I hope they get them out before Jeep's next surprise is revealed (not the V8 JL). Its going to be big for offroad guys.
     
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    That's awesome! I almost drove a couple hours to check them out at a big Bronco event a few months ago but the scheduling didn't work out.

    I'm still open to a Bronco being my next rig depending on how this first model year works out. Last I heard they were delaying preorders, but I haven't caught any recent updates.

    I think they're definitely set up to hit a home run with this one. I hope they do. Some competition will push Jeep and Toyota.
     
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    .....re-badged Toyota ? Something reliable ? :D
     
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